i conducted training with pistol licenses in michigan. more than one of the folks who have come through my class have saved lives with guns. in fact, semiautomatic guns. they have protected themselves and their loved ones. we look at it as guns save lives. >> tom ridge, you are hearing this. guns save lives. >> first of all i'm wondering if there are veterans in the audience, men if women who were in the army or the marines, who have combat experience or training with assault weapons. i'd be curious to know whether or not they think that their neighbor who has not had the training, should be able to access military assault weapon with a high capacity clip, 20, 30, 40 rounds and i'd be curious if anybody in your audience has a response to than having been in the military whether they think it's a matter of public policy, a good idea and that we should go forward with continuing to permit the sale of those items. >> i can jump in. my brother was in the british military. he's used these weapons. he said what a surgeon told me who is a friend